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08 July 2017 @ 11:54 pm
More Links about PB Ransoming images & more thoughts  
Seems like news of Photobucket's rotten and sudden change of their TOS is all over the internet now. I've found some new articles to join with the ones HERE.

Why is Photobucket holding the internet to ransom?
A very good article outlining how PB has effectively shot themselves in the foot with their actions. I totally agree. The way PB has done this almost guarantees they're going to lose nearly all their customers, not gain them. If they really wanted to make money, this was the worst possible way to go about it.

The big lesson from Photobucket’s ‘ransom images’ debacle via Yahoo!
In the article PB's CEO states he is 'blaming this shift on “the rise of ad blockers and the Company’s explosion of 3rd party hosting that generates zero revenue.”' Well, good luck making ANY REVENUE by charging people $400 a year. It's ridiculous! I can't imagine anyone paying that amount. If they offered a plan w/3rd Party Hosting for something reasonable, like $24 a year I think most people would gladly pay. But this huge jump is simply insane!

Another article by a blogger hit by PB's ransoming tactic:
http://www.xadara.com/the-cost-of-photobucket-image-hosting/


Photobucket accused of blackmail after quietly requiring users to pay $400 a year to hotlink via The Verge
Gotta love Photobucket's totally clueless response on Twitter at the bottom of the article.

Photobucket addresses complaints over new policy that charges heavy users $400 via The Denver Post (PB is based out of Denver)
More totally useless explanations from Photobucket's CEO.

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One thing I keep seeing online is people saying stuff like, "Hey, it was a free service. You get what you pay for." Well, I WAS paying for it up until earlier this year! I had been paying for 2 accounts, but when PB started becoming so difficult to use, I started using SlickPic more and stopped paying for PB. It doesn't matter whether you paid for PB or not when they're now charging $400 a year for any 3rd Party Hosting (which is something they encouraged people to do up until now!).

I also keep seeing people thinking this is just about image hosting.
I don't need PB for image hosting. I have back-ups of almost all of the images on PB (I hope!). What I used PB for was for linking images to LJ. THIS is what upsets the millions of PB users. All those many, many, MANY posts online are now totally useless! Images that were online for years and years are gone! Yes, they're supposedly still on PB, but that doesn't solve the problem of them being visible on the sites people have linked them to. For many of us, we're talking thousands and thousands of posts. Years and years of work that are no longer visible online. That's what hurts! And there's no easy solution. None. Except to forget about them and hope nobody will ever look at those posts again. Considering I've been posting to LJ nearly every day for the past 9 years, replacing all those links is an impossible task.

I'm seeing my Flist making posts about an online petition to get PB to turn 3rd Party Hosting back on. While this sounds like a good idea at first, I've done some thinking about it and have decided not to sign the petition.

Why?

PB is not what it used to be. It used to be a site that worked, that didn't have tons of pop-up ads, that actually cared about it's users. That disappeared a few years ago. They ruined the site, they ruined the ease of use and posting to sites. This is why I started up with SlickPic (and I'm so glad I did).

Why on earth would we want to go back to the garbage that is Photobucket???
Plus, do you honestly think that a company that has deceived it's users to this extent is going to suddenly do a 180 and give all those images back due to a petition??? I think not. They want our money and nothing else. Of course, they're not going to get it from most of us as a mass exodus is happening of PB users.

I've even seen on Facebook where a few users who have signed up for the $400 a year plan STILL DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR IMAGES!!! Why pay that amount of money if PB still refuses to turn back on the 3rd Party Hosting??? Why even trust them with your money after all of this? Their customer service sucks and they clearly don't care about their users. Their actions, of course, will mostly likely mean the end of the company. I can only say, good riddance!

 
 
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Hell's Half Acre: Worried!Samhells_half_acre on July 9th, 2017 07:38 am (UTC)
I'm super concerned. I use PB for my clothing catalog - so far I haven't had any trouble. Is it just because it's not heavy enough use?

If that changes, I've got to re-upload 400+ images somewhere else?!!?! Arg!

I honestly don't know what's going on, but I'm low-key freaking out about it. I don't have the time to reupload and relink all those images!!

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggg

stupid PB. You're right though, it's not what it was. It's been getting crappier and crappier for years now, I guess I should have seen the writing on the wall and switched services ages ago.

If you find a good alternative, please post about it. I'll cancel my photobucket account and switch over... but yeah, not looking forward to the millions of house of uploads and re-linking.
raloria - Screencapping Goddessraloria on July 9th, 2017 09:09 am (UTC)
Oh, no! I didn't know that. Yeah, I'd be a little worried, too. :(
It could be because your posts don't have enough views, but I wouldn't guarantee that. They might get to your account, too, eventually.

Yep, it's not fun. Believe me. At least I already had Slickpic up and going, so I could move my Season 1-7 Location Caps over there.

I recommend SlickPic. I've been with them over a year now? Don't quite remember. I didn't like how PB was ruining their site and limiting how I could post via HTML embedding, so I found SlickPic instead. I pay for their PLUS account (which they don't have anymore) but that gave me the ability to post the images to LJ without their annoying text advertising on every image.

Here's their pricing page: https://www.slickpic.com/pricing

They have lots of options, even paying by month or yearly. And they're much more reasonable than PB! Even their Basic (lowest) plan at $2.95 a month is a pretty good deal and you won't have those text ads on the images.

Other PB users are flocking to Imgur, I hear, but I've given them a try and I'm not terribly impressed so far. Their interface is a little clunky and confusing IMO. SlickPic is much more streamlined and easy to navigate and use....like PB USED to be.
Dizzojay's Dean Dreamsdizzojay on July 9th, 2017 08:22 am (UTC)
I hardly ever use Photobucket now. As you rightly say, it's been getting worse for years and years. It's riddled with pop ups and ads, and my computer invariably slows down and freezes when I use it. They are the main reason I don't post at Dreamwidth at the moment, because you can only post pictures from a hosting site there, and thr thought of using PB mor than once in a blue moon is too depressing to contemplate. Would I even consider for one second paying $400 to use such a crappy product, hell no, and all I can say is that there CEO must be utterly deluded as well as totally without morals.

But it's easy for me to say, I've lost about three picspams and the odd random post here and there, I'm nowhere near as badly affected as some people, and I really do feel for them.

I've been and had a look at that SlickPic you mentioned, and I do like the look of it - I think I'll be signing up!
raloria - Screencapping Goddessraloria on July 9th, 2017 09:16 am (UTC)
I never see all the pop-up ads on PB that everyone complains about. Guess all my ad-blockers are doing their job. ;) But I can understand the frustration and I have experienced PB not loading properly. Ugly!

SlickPic is a nice alternative to PB. I have the occasional issue while uploading a batch of images at once, but it's nothing like the aggravation of using PB over the past several years. The interface is similar to what PB used to be and it's easy to organize things. And the best part is the options for posting to other sites. You select your image and then can choose which size you want it displayed as on the site and if you want it to be clicked on to view the original sized image or not. Lots of options! That's what drew me to SlickPic over PB over a year ago and I'm so glad I found them!

The only flaw with SlickPic is that it's no good for animated gifs. :(
That's why I use PhotoLand now just for my gifs. It's not as pretty as SlickPic, but it works for animated gifs just fine.

Edited at 2017-07-09 09:18 am (UTC)
caranfindel: pic#122754665caranfindel on July 10th, 2017 07:36 pm (UTC)
Is posting to other sites only possible with a paid account? I can't figure out how to do it with a free account. :(
Trystan: Dean & his Toystrystan830 on July 9th, 2017 05:23 pm (UTC)
i barely use PB anymore...BUT i do still have all my picspams i used to post still here on LJ! i'm very curious about this, beause i have their free account, but whenever i go to random picspam pages, and even my LJ home page, i still see all my pics.

i'm also not sure if i still have all the pics i've posted in my picspams saved somewhere, and i can tell you this: i don't have the space or time to download alllll the pics from all my PB accounts.... :O
tracys_dreamtracys_dream on July 10th, 2017 08:01 pm (UTC)
Today I noticed a PB problem with my sidebar not showing my pics but a message from PB.
:(